Saturday, February 4, 2012

Don Constantino O’Neill: The Black Cross M. O’Neill




Oral history states that Don Constantino O’Neill is the progenitor of the O’Neill’s of Puerto Rico, and what we do know is that his descendants in Puerto Rico are of a Germanic origin due to the y-dna Haplotype and SNP we do know that there are unique and are the last of a bloodline that seems to have died out long ago. Currently this branch of the O’Neill’s of Puerto Rico is R1b1a2a1a1a5c L48/S162   L148- L48+ P107- U106+ U198- until further test.
Don Constantino O’Neill is oral history was described as a tall man with blue eyes, other accounts say he had brown eyes with dark hair.  He was described as a very violent man involved in piracy who would fight Bulls with a gun and shield for fun. It’s will not be known, if this was done for some religious practice, or it was just some part of Don Constantino O’Neill’s ways.  His family was said to have fought in the land were people wore Wooden Shoes and there were windmills (The Spanish Netherlands, modern day Belgium). This O'Neill's oral history show they lived in Spain before migrating to the Spanish Netherlands around the 1600's. There were men named Edmundo, Eamon or an Enrique Rua O'Neill ,Rocco (Richard or Ricard), Gill (Guillermo), Juan (Sean, John) ,and Don Constantino O’Neill was the head of the family  that was ruled or composed  by eight heads and all lived in one area where they would all meet after long campaigns or raiding.



One important detail that I over looked and now see to have been a big clue was the mention of Don Constantino O’Neill, and these other O’Neill’s, who sailed on a ship with a “Black Cross on a White Field.”

I have researched this and there are two possibilities:
     

  1. The Teutonic Order Flag 
  2.  The Kroaz Du of Brittany.




I have found no evidence that the Teutonic Knights were in Spain or that an order of Teutonic Knights were part of anything in the Caribbean or Spain. But I did find that the Breton Ships did use a Black Cross Flag, and this was also a standard of Breton soldiers. Also the Kroaz Du was the flag of Brittany. Now finding any record of a Don Constantino O’Neill is Brittany involved in piracy, or in the Admiralty of Brittany will be the a big find.

In an earlier blog post on Don Constantino, I found that a Don Constantino O’Neill in August of 1642 took to the sea from Rochelle with fifty soldiers in a ship laden with arms and powder. La Rochelle is a city in Western France and was the largest seaport on the Bay of Biscay, or the Atlantic coast of France. Where was this ship heading to? And was this Don Constantino O’Neill who was raised in Galicia, Spain? What is also known is that La Rochelle was a haven for French privateers, merchants, and pirates. The Caribbean was well known to these men example are the maps of the islands in the West Indies done in the early 1600’s. I have not found any evidence that a Don Constantino O’Neill sailed to the Caribbean during the mid-1600, and finding records of such a voyage is basically impossible for me to do.

What I do now know is that this Black Cross Flag was part of Don Constantino O’Neill our progenitor, and part of Brittany and its ships.  Also that in 1642 there was a Don Constantino O’Neill in La Rochelle with fifty soldiers and a ship.
Due to the fact that I’m doing all research by myself in my spare time overlooking certain facts becomes the norm , but I strongly believe there are those out there who read this blog , and I know exactly that there are those who know who was Don Constantino O’Neill.
Time will tell and I will find who Don Constantino O’Neill was!  

3 comments:

  1. I was googling my y haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1a5c and found to my amazement that it is identical to the haplogroup you describe for the the ONeill's of Puerto Rico, specifically Don Constantino O’Neill . The males in my family are Latvian's with the earliest family written/oral history having the name Davis appear in Latvia ( part of Russia then) in the 1710's or so. The history of Courland which is a duchy that occupied lands that now form Latvia may provide an alternative explanation for the Black Cross link as well as the Caribbean connection as Courland, briefly owned Tobago. For the black cross, see the following site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duchy_of_Courland_and_Semigallia and note the black cross in the flags box which when you click on it goes to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Baltic_coat_of_arms.svg

    For some history, I took this from http://www.lv90.lv/?id=1670&obj=1610&setlang=1

    "Duke of Courland did back in the 17th century, and Courland today is a part of Latvia. Duke Jacob bought the Caribbean island of Tobago in 1640 and used Latvian sailors on Latvian-made ships to bring sugar, tobacco, and coffee back to Jelgava. Back then Jelgava was a major distribution point for these precious West Indian goods to Eastern Europe.

    In 1651 Duke Jacob added to Jelgava’s riches by buying the Island of Andrew at the mouth of Gambia river in West Africa. From here he used Latvian sailors and ships to bring ivory, pearls and other treasures to Jelgava from the Dark Continent.

    Bringing goodies from his colonies wasn’t enough so in 1654 Duke Jacob filled the warship ‘Duchess of Courland’ with 80 Latvian families and settled them in Tobago. They even built a Fort Jacob there in his honor. Today you can still find people and even a bay called ‘Courland’ in Tobago. The Duke’s hold on Tobago ended in 1664, when the British took it for themselves"

    For a history of Courland, http://www.historyfiles.co.uk/KingListsEurope/EasternLivoniaCourland.htm

    Also the Dutch connection you have noted may be explained by the details regarding the Dutch reaction to Courland's Tabago colony see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Courland_colonization_of_the_Americas

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    1. Thank you for the information... It's very likely that our ancestors came from some Germanic tribe around those areas, or possibly the Goths. There hasn't been any genetic matches within 2000 years and the closest are from Finland, Norway, and Sweden... Very interesting info you have provided thank you again...

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  2. A very interesting story about the O ´ Neill's.
    I'm looking also for my ancestors.
    I am a member of Haplogroup R1b1a2a1a1a5c L48.

    Many greetings from
    North Rhine - Westphalia, Germany

    Gerald Meyer

    geraldmeyer@gmx.de

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