U106/S21 Neely's / O'Neill's of Pennsylvania

About a year ago I came across a post, of a man named Neely claiming to have been a descendant of Art Oge O'Neill, and this group of Neely's / O'Neill's were from York, Pennsylvania. The interesting part is that they are y-dna tested and are U106/S21 R1b1b2a1a1a, and I have no knowledge that they have tested for L48 or any subclade of the U106/S21.

The genealogy is given as follows

Art Oge O'Neill (1565 - 1622), father of
Shane O'Neill (1599 - 1643) father of
Thomas O'Neill (1619 - 1670) father of
Tiege O'Neill (1641 - 1690) father of
Henry (O'Neill) Payne (1665 - 1698) father of
Art (O'Neill) Payne (1678 - 1732) father of
Thomas (O'Neill) Neely

DYS 393 = 13
DYS 390 = 24
DYS 385 a = 11
DYS 385 b = 14
DYS 389-2 = 29
DYS 459 a-b = 9,9
DYS 447 = 25
DYS 464 a = 15
DYS 464 b = 15
DYS 464 c = 17
DYS 464 d = 17
YCA II a = 19
YCA II b = 23

Their SNP tested is U106/S21 R1b1b2a1a1a.

The question is these Neely's / O'Neill's the descendants of Art Oge O'Neill that died in 1622?

We assume that all this is 100% true, and there are no doubts about any NPE. Then are we are looking at my theory of the core O'Neill's being of the SNP U106 / S21 and L48? This Art Oge O'Neill was the son of Conn O'Neill, who died in 1598, son of Shane “The Proud" O’Neill, and these O'Neill's were mainly of Strabane and Dungannon. Let’s look at these O'Neill's /Payne/ Neely alleged genealogy.

Conn O'Neill, married Nuala O'Donnell parents of

Art Oge O'Neill
CuUladh O'Neill, descendants possibly in Scotland).
Mor O’Neill, became a nun.
Eoghan O'Neill, had children but it's not known of them.
Brian O’Neill was killed by an Englishman.
Flann O’Neill died in Strabane.

Art Oge O’Neill married Sinead Ni Art (Joanna O'Hart) from this marriage there were four children born.

1. Conn Ruadh died descendants unknown.
2. Shane O’Neill, born in 1599 and married Kathleen O'Donnell of Tirconnell.
3. Rose
4.Aodh Dubh , A Major - General in the Austrian Army married Sibylla , the daughter of a German Prince in 1641.

Shane O’Neill, the second son of Art Oge O’Neill, was the father of six children.

1. Thomas O'Neill
2. Art O'Neill
3. Conn O’Neill, lived in Munster, Ireland.
4. Eoghan O’Neill immigrated to North America.
5. Robert O'Neill, whose descendants are believed to be extinct?
6. Meadhbh O'Neill, married a French Officer.

Thomas O’Neill, was born 1619, married Angelina O'Neill, the daughter of Aodh Dubh O'Neill. They became the parents of four, later on in 1670 Thomas found dead on Lough Foyle, and stabbed in the back with a dagger.

1. Tiege O'Neill
2. Shane O’Neill entered the Spanish Army.
3. Mor O’Neill married a Scotch Laird.
4. Kate O'Neill

Teige O'Neill (1641 - 1690), buried at Ardstraw, married Mary O'Donnell and became the parents of five.

1. Henry O'Neill
2. Brian O'Neill
3. John O'Neill
Both Brian and John O'Neill ended up mercenaries in France, and then in Portugal. They are believed to have had eight decendants that immigrated to Brazil in South America.
4. Robert O’Neill married Miss Stuart of Argyle.
5. Rose O’Neill married a MacCallum of Scotland.

Henry O'Neill, born in 1665 at Dungannon,Ulster. Married Fionualla O'Gormley and they became the parents of ten children. Henry O’Neill, was also the cousin of Colonel Sir. Neill O’Neill, died in 1690 at the Boyne. This Henry O’Neill, changed his surname to "Payne" , he lived in various areas of Ireland , but finally ended up under the shelter of Neal O'Neal of Cloon, Co. Leitrim. At the end he ended up being assassinated by his hereditary O'Neill enemies in 1698, at Co.Mayo.

1. Art O'Neill
2. Judith O'Neill
3. Kate O'Neill
4. Aodh O'Neill
5. Shane O'Neill
6. Roderic O'Neill
7. Nora O'Neill
8. Cu-Uladh O’Neill, Entered the English Army under an alias, and was later found strangled in London.
9. Delia O'Neill married a George MacCarthy.


Art (O'Neill) Payne (1687 - 1732), married Kate O’Toole, the daughter of Kate O'Toole, and they became the parents of nine. Art (O'Neill) Payne is buried at Ardstraw, Ireland.

1. Niall (O'Neill) Payne.
2. Thomas (O'Neill/ Payne) Neely, who immigrated to the North America, and it's the progenitor of the Neely's of Pennsylvania.
3. Francis (O'Neill) Payne.
4. Lawrence (O'Neill)Payne, married a woman named Collins and two sons and one daughter.
5. Nuala (O’Neill) Payne.
6. Rose (O'Neill) Payne.
7. Ada (O'Neill) Payne.
8. Mor (O'Neill) Payne married a Henry O'Cahan of Co.Derry.
9. Joan (O'Neill) Payne.


Neely Y-DNA project








Again, assuming there are no NPE, and all the genealogy is 100% correct. Then we are looking at the progenitor of the Neely's / O'Neill, Thomas Neely born 1695 , being of the SNP U106/S21, and in turn this means that Shane " The Proud " O'Neill ,and the progenitor of the Royal O'Neill's , Niall Glundubh MacAedo, was of the SNP U106/S21 , and it's not known if also L48. This somewhat confirms my theory that the Royal Bloodline O'Neill's were of the SNP U106/S21, and possible L48 SNP this will be known until further test are made, or acquired by this group of Neely's / O'Neill's , and other O'Neill's.


Comparing the O'Neill's of Puerto Rico y -dna of the SNP L48 , and if we say that the Neely's / O'Neill of Pennsylvania turn out to be L48+,then it will be interesting to see circa what year the nearest common ancestor between these two groups is believed to have lived. What we do know is that U106/S21 is believed to be a Germanic SNP,an estimated 3,100 to 2,900 years old.

What we do know of Art Oge O’Neill, is that his descendants must be in Brazil, Portugal,Ireland,United States, and Scotland. They must be O'Neill's of the SNP U106/S21 or its subclade, and not of the coined O'Neill Variety which most O'Neill's are part of.