O’Neill R1b Haplogroups: I By M.O’Neill

Among those O’Neill’s tested within the R1b SNP’s we find.

1.   O’Neill’s of the SNP L21/S145/M529 R1b1a2a1a1b4 4,000 ybp estimated circa 1990 B.C.

2.   O’Neill’s of the SNP S28/U152     R1b1a2a1a1b3 3,500 ybp estimated circa 1480 B.C.

3.   O’Neill’s of the SNP M222 R1b1a2a1a1b4b 3,000 ybp estimated circa 1480 B.C.

4.   O’Neill’s of the SNP P312/S116 R1b1b2a1b 5,300 ybp estimated circa 3280 B.C.

5.   O’Neill’s of the SNP L2/S139 R1b1a2a1a1b3c 2,500 ybp estimated circa 489 B.C.

6.   Neely/O’Neill’s of the SNP M405/S21/U106 R1b1a2a1a1a 3,500 ybp estimated circa 1480 B.C.

7.   O’Neill’s of Puerto Rico SNP L48/S162 R1b1a2a1a1a5c. 

R1b1a2a1a1b4 R-L21/ M529/ S145 are mostly found in England and Ireland and among the majority of O'Neill.

Its 1^st sub clade R1b1a2a1a1b4b R-M222 is associated with the Irish and Scottish, but especially the northern Irish. Often associated with the Uí Néill dynasty Niall of the Nine Hostages closely related to the Connacht dynasties, the Uí Briúin, and the Uí Fiachrach.

The 2^nd sub clade is R1b1a2a1a1b4f R-L159.2 associated with the Kings of Leinster and Diarmait Mac Murchada. It’s found among those tested in the coastal areas of the Irish Sea, the Isle of Man, the Hebrides, Norway, western and southern Scotland, northern and southern England, northeast France, and northern Denmark.

The 3^rd sub clade is R1b1a2a1a1b4g R-L193 estimated to be 2,000 years old, and associated geographically with the western "Border Region" of Scotland. I’ve yet to see any O’Neill’s tested for this SNP.

The 4^th sub clade is R1b1a2a1a1b4h R-L226 referred to as Irish Type III; it is concentrated in central western Ireland and associated with the Dál gCais of Ireland. I’ve not see any O’Neill’s test positive for this SNP, but very likely once more in the coined phrase “O’Neill Variety” get tested many will likely end up part of this SNP.

The SNP R1b1a2a1a1a M405/S21/U106 is an estimated 3,500 ybp circa 1480 B.C. and found in the geographical regions of Frisia, Benelux, England, Austria, and northern Italy. It’s referred as a Western Germanic SNP and associated with the Germanic tribes. Only way this SNP which is not found with frequency in Ireland is part of the O’Neill’s is either through a Celt – Germanic tribe like the Belgae ,or the Menapii both recorded in Ireland anciently , or a NPE involving the French Normans, Anglo – Saxons, Danes, or Vikings. The O’Neill history has had enough of a dubious genealogy and several NPE (Non Paternal Events) that anything is possible.

These West Germanic tribes were called the Ingvaeones "People of Yngvi", as described in Tacitus's Germania, written circa 98 B.C. These were a cultural group living along what we know now as the North Sea, and its coastal areas of Jutland, Holstein, Frisia, and the Danish islands. By the 1^st century they became known as the Frisii, Saxons, Jutes and Angles. Could have any of these ancient tribes have made into Ireland anciently? Yes, but the lack of this SNP among the O’Neill’s could suggest a core Royal group of O’Neill’s, or a Non Paternal Event.

The SNP L48/S162 R1b1a2a1a1a5c (A sub clade of the R1b1a2a1a1a M405/S21/U106), it’s only to date found among the O’Neill’s in Puerto Rico is said to be of an Eastern Germanic origin. Some theories believe that the East Germanics constituted of migrants who may have moved from Scandinavia into the area between the Oder and Vistula rivers circa 600 and 300 B.C. Later they went into Southern Europe, and it would be very unlikely that they migrated into Ireland during 600 and 300 B.C.

The SNP S28/U152 R1b1a2a1a1b3     found among those of origins in the Rhine, Meuse & Rhône basins, Alps, and North Italy. The theory is that its origins are in the Hallstatt-La Tène cultures and it’s an indication of an Alpine Celtic origin.

The SNP L2/S139 R1b1a2a1a1b3c     is mainly found in Italy, Germany, Belgium, Britain, Ireland, and Norway. The theory is that it’s of an Alpine Celtic origin.

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Maybe one day when the Clannaboy O’Neill’s, the O’Neill’s of Fews, and others who claim to be of the Royal House of O’Neill get the courage to come forward with a y-dna sample we will either have new answers or new questions. The best way to find the truth is by an independent testing of the ancient O’Neill’s remains.

These clowns waste their time with associations and clan chiefs reunions instead of doing and researching for the truth of the O’Neill’s. But the reality maybe is that they know the truth already, and will not make it public, since either it will give others legitimacy, and just make themselves insignificant in the grand scale of things. Whatever their true reasons they won’t be taken seriously by many.