Recently, I obtained the test for the SNP L47 which is an
Germanic SNP associated with possible origins in the Baltics some theories
believe that it was spread by Danish Vikings, Franks, and cluster
of people whose ancestors converted into Judaism long ago.
The O’Neill’s of Puerto Rico are not part of the SNP
L47. The next possible test will be the
SNP Z9 associated with North Western Germanic origins around 2,000 to 3,000
years ago in the regions of the North Sea associated with the tribal origins
with the Istvaeones, Saxons, Jutes (possible Geats), Angles, Thuringians,
Alamanni, Suebi, Franks, Sicambri, Salii, Chamavi, Bructeri, Chatti,
Chattuarii, Ampsivarii, Tencteri, Ubii, Batavi, Frisii, Cimbri, Batavi, Chatti,
Thuringii, Hermunduri.
The problem is that
the O’Neill’s of Puerto Rico belong to the Germanic L48 SNP, but they don’t
match any of the current tested population within the USA or Britain. Where the
tested population it’s heavily associated with Saxon and Angles tribal origins.
Outside a 2,000 year match of 12 markers and a few tested in Yorkshire ,
England with the marker YCA II b = 21, there are no concrete matches.
It’s very likely that the progenitor of the O’Neill’s of
Puerto Rico belonged to undiscovered SNP of a Teutonic origin. Only time will
tell when new SNP’s are discovered and new evidence is found.
I've seen the name lots while researching records in PR for my own ancestors. I thought it was kind of an unusual name to be found
ReplyDeleteNot that unusual... Once you start looking at records etc.. you will find all sorts of Irish surnames in Puerto Rico...
ReplyDeleteI am from Spain and I have Y-DNA R1b1b2a1a2f*. My last name is not O'Neill, however I am a direct match with Niall. My last name is Martinez. 50% of men do not have the original last name of their original Y-DNA father. I believe Miles story is very probable. If you trace the Y-DNA in a map you would realize it is a match to the places described in the History of the Four Kingdoms. I suspect the relation between Northern Spain and Ireland has been happening from before the Romans invaded Spain and after they left. The Osorio family (or Flainez and Lainez) are in fact McLain and McFlain. Those 2 were the founders of Castile in 822AD. El Cid Campeador is a Flainez (Rodrigo Diaz de Vivar) and Rodrigo Martinez is a Lainez. Both branches founded the Trastamara dynasty (aka Macnamara). Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share. To conclude, I believe there are great chances the story has part of true in it. Phoenicians had plenty of colonies in Spain and good sailors.
ReplyDeleteAnother interesting fact is that the first representative constitution was copied from Ireland (by Irish Osorios and Flainez) in 1188AD in Leon. This is documented in the book "The Life and Death of Democracy". John Keane. Simon & Schuster, London, 2009. "The first parliament was not English, but Spanish. Keane locates the birth of representative parliaments in the cloisters of San Isidoro Church, in León, Northern Spain - the site where King Alfonso IX convened the first cortes in 1188 CE.[18]".
ReplyDeleteProbable conclusion is that the Clan system from Ireland was replicated in Ireland and vice versa till the eclipse of the Trastamara dynasty in 1555 which concluded in the English Plantation of Ulster and the Flight of the Earls in 1607. My dad is from central Spain, my mother is from Northen Spain about 40km from where Flain and Lain founded Castile. The interesting part is that it is documented. The troubling part is why the story (history) was changed or forgotten. Sincerely.
Does any of you is matching with Niall Y-DNA?
ReplyDeleteI am descended from a Sir Patrick Lawless who was a soldier and diplomat for Spain. I am attempting to find who his wife and children were. A Spanish history lecture mentions a Rosa Enriquez y O'Neill as Sir Patrick's neice. It also mentions Sir Patrick staying at Bernardo O'Neill's house in Madrid. Were they related? Can anyone help me?
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